Harrisburg Mall shooting
March 17th, 2008
No one was seriously hurt but several police departments were on the scene for several hours. CBS 21’s Liz Collin explains what happened.
It all started just after 12:30 Sunday a teenager says he was shot in the foot outside the Great Escape entrance at the mall. Then he ran through the mall leaving a trail of blood behind.
Jason Pooler pulled up to run some errands with his family, he knows work’s going on at the mall for months.
"The first thing you think is what’s that noise. The second thing maybe I shouldn’t be here. I looked at my wife and i said there’s no construction that had to be gunshots."
Several shots fired outside, police say the group of young guys responsible fled the scene in a black Dodge Magnum - that’s why the mall stayed open: police decided shoppers were safe.
Mark Nobile, Harrisburg Mall General Manager:
"It’s just unsettling whenever you hear you hear it you don’t think of other incidents you think of your own and that’s what we were thinking of."
Nearly an hour after the victim went to the hospital with no signs of the shooter police cuff two guys driving a black Charger in the parking lot after spotting guns on both of them.
Swatare Township Police Chief David Bogdanovic:
"It was discovered they had a license to carry. They were released and sent on their way. He just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time."
Police say people were safe the entire time and that the incident was over before it even started, but as always they say shoppers should pay attention.
The mall just installed 47 new security cameras. Police are currently reviewing that footage. The Harrisburg Mall also has a phone system that called each store in the mall to tell workers what was going on.
Police are still looking for that black Dodge Magnum. They are hoping to get more information on the suspects from the victim. The victim has already told police he doesn’t know the group who shot him.
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March 17th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
We hold these things to be self-evident, that all people are created equal…. All. Not just those within some lines drawn on a map.
March 17th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
While I’m not suggesting that this guy get away with it, what would be the incentive for anybody to blow the whistle on this sort of thing if they knew it was a one way ticket to jail?/Maybe a first man forward law, so if you were the first person to report a particular incident, you could get a very reduced sentence. Maybe start a little prisoners dillema, have people racing to report atrocities?
March 17th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Boy, in Arab TV I see interviews with people who were shot,tortured by American soldiers for absolutely nothing.It will never make it into US media because it does not serve Bush’s regime agenda.I respect and I like the American people so do not get me wrong in here. But I see no difference between what the Israeli Army does to Palestinians and what The US army does to Iraqis.I sincerely hope the US would change its ways and live up to its constitution.
March 18th, 2008 at 12:09 am
When the US goes bust will the rest of the world:Extend the hand of charity?Spit on their grave?permalinkshokk (3 children) [+]shokk 0 points 1 day ago [-]Amazing how the US extended the hand of charity after WWII to both Japan and Germany immediately after they helped smash them. Granted, it was strategically necessary, but it was done, nonetheless. Expect no such charity in return.
March 18th, 2008 at 1:00 am
Why wouldn’t they just use the guns to rob fares?Would cut out the middle man.
March 18th, 2008 at 1:50 am
So one guy is admitting to murder in front of an entire audience and somehow is not in jail for it? Absolutely disgusting and unforgivable. How do these people operate without a conscience? To knowingly kill innocent people before oneself is beyond shameful.They deserve all the misery life has to offer. Fuck these military robots. They are no better than chimps with guns.
March 18th, 2008 at 2:41 am
Of course I blame Bush and the people that elected him. But no matter what someone tells you to do, killing a person that was no threat to you is completely inexcusable. It is the lowest of the low. I’m pretty confident that if I was ever somehow stupid enough to enroll in the military, I’d probably shoot my squad leader first.This is what I qualify a hero as:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Thompson,_Jr.
March 18th, 2008 at 3:32 am
Where’s that in the constitution? The DoI isn’t a legal or binding document and I have a hard time caring for a document when quite a few signatories owned slaves, for starters. Maybe that does explain this country; founded by talk, followed by bullshit. (incidentally, only 1/3 of america supported independence, 1/3 were loyalists, and the other 1/3 kept switching to the winners side or were just plain ‘ol ambivalent - that’s democracy?).anyways, article 6 of the constitution does have this:”…all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution [of any State] or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding. [Emphasis added.]”we have quite a few treaties which details treatments of foreign citizens.
March 18th, 2008 at 4:22 am
It says nothing of the rights of foreign citizens — therefore I can wash my hands of them.
March 18th, 2008 at 5:13 am
Sums up the whole affair IMHO.
March 18th, 2008 at 6:03 am
What does the Constitution say about the rights of people in other countries?
March 18th, 2008 at 6:54 am
Were I running for office, this is the speech I would make.We have blood on our hands. All of us. Every last one. Even those of us who protested the war are guilty. Why? Because we all could have done more. We could have voted a different administration into office. We could have protested more, protested harder, protested further afield. We could have done a better job of getting our message out.We could have held our leaders accountable, whether they were Democrat or Republican, Labour or Conservative, and stood up with one voice to say ‘No’. And we didn’t.We are all, all of us, guilty of a crime against humanity. Not as guilty as George Bush or Dick Cheney or Tony Blair, but guilty nonetheless. And we need to apologise to the people of Iraq, and to the soldiers we sent there.When in human history has giving an 18-year-old a gun and a trip to a foreign land, where he doesn’t speak the language, where he doesn’t know exactly what he’s supposed to do…when has that ever worked out well? You take a kid from the cornfields of Iowa, from the barrios of LA, from Newcastle or London, and expose him to horror greater than he can imagine. You send him to watch his best friend die in agony, you send him to face the constant fear that he could be killed any second, and expect him to do his job and come back a balanced, normal human being. Oh, he also has to kill people while he’s there. That certainly wouldn’t affect you.We need to do everything we can to make two things whole again. First, the people of Iraq. I don’t care how they want to go about it. Do the Kurds want to be a separate nation? Fine. Do the Shi’a want to join with Iran? Knock yourselves out. Do the Sunnis want to live in their own smaller country? Fantastic.My point is this: this is not a nation we own, and this is not our fight. While we should obviously fight oppression wherever it occurs, using force should be our last option, always, without question. We should not consider sending kids into combat without first considering the potential cost both in lives and in money. This war was a mistake before it was launched, a mistake when it was launched, and a mistake now.And we are to blame, because we let it happen.
March 18th, 2008 at 7:44 am
They aren’t robbers, they are having a turf war.